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Best Kurak Alliance Escorts for the Tarakian Ganak

  

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As I start to think about doing my best to expand my Tarakians, despite the limited variety of models available to me, I wonder about getting a few escorts to accompany my Ganak into battle. Not only are escorts occasionally valuable, they are a great way to soak up a few additional points, which is even more important when you have so few different models available to you.

 

The question is, which Kurak Alliance escort is best?

 

In my mind, there are only two contenders: the Aquan Kappa and the Terran Squire. Let's hit the Pros and Cons as I see them...

 

Aquan Kappa

  • + high PD score, makes the Ganak into a towering fortress of screw you torpedoes.
  • + Minefield MAR lets you put some mines on the midline, which works well with gravity weapons
  • - You're also paying for the Mines score on the escorts themselves, which you will never use because without a healthy Mines score on the primary member of the squadron, the resulting mine would have 4 AD, and would therefore be useless.
  • - You're also paying for a lot of speed and maneuverability, which is totally wasted on a model that will be following a Ganak around.
  • - 20 points a pop.

 

Terran Squire

  • + high PD score, see above.
  • + Has a Shields rating, which means that the entire squadron will benefit from the Power to Shields TAC, which is pretty hilarious on the Ganak (4 dice of shields? Don't mind if I do!).
  • + only 15 points a pop
  • - absolutely zero offensive output, which is par for the course with escorts, but a problem that the Kappa manages to sneak around thanks to its ability to put some decent 6 AD mines on the table.

 

What do you think? Should us Tarakian players invest in Squires or Kappas?

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terran, 'cause ur escort really should be relied on for any offensive output to begin with

u're using them as PD so cheaper the better

 

i haven't seen mine being used in my games because we rarely get into close combat

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Difference's are:

 

Stalwart (K.A.):- 4. 5. 8". 2. 3. 0. 3. 0. 20pts. 1Sh. 0Wg. 0TL. Diff T~MAR

 

Guardian (T.A.):- 3. 4. 8". 2. 2. 0. 3. 0. 15pts. 1Sh. 0Wg. 0TL. Diff T~MAR

 

So all in all for 5pts more you get a slightly tougher escort that practically does the same thing. So depending on what points you have left is the real decision breaker, if you have more points go with the Stalwart, if you have less points go for the Guardian

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Difference's are:

 

Stalwart (K.A.):- 4. 5. 8". 2. 3. 0. 3. 0. 20pts. 1Sh. 0Wg. 0TL. Diff T~MAR

 

Guardian (T.A.):- 3. 4. 8". 2. 2. 0. 3. 0. 15pts. 1Sh. 0Wg. 0TL. Diff T~MAR

 

So all in all for 5pts more you get a slightly tougher escort that practically does the same thing. So depending on what points you have left is the real decision breaker, if you have more points go with the Stalwart, if you have less points go for the Guardian

 

I don't know, for me I think that extra 5 points is more then worth bumping the defenses to 4/5 over 3/4, the extra CP I am less excited about but its there so yay.

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With the release of the Marauders stats, two more possibilities have caught my eye.

 

For 20 points apiece, you can have up to three STL Penitentiary-Class Escort. A trio Penitentiary-Class Escort can their gravity guns with a Tarakian battleship, resulting in 14/13/11/8 dice attacks. Of course, that's only for control, rather than damage, but that's nothing to sneeze at. With a PD score of 2 each, the battleship will enjoy a total PD of 12, which is still pretty good.

 

The other new option is the Oroshan Grief-Class Escort. This one is interesting - with port/starboard primaries, it boosts the Tarakian battleship's broadsides to 14/20/9/6. That's a pretty impressive boost, especially for 15 points a pop. For an added 5 points per model, you can increase the PD bonus to the same as the Penitentiary described above.

 

Overall, at the moment, I am leaning towards the Grief-Class Escort as the strongest front-runner for an accompaniment for the Ganak/Sanarl. In my opinion, the main problem that the Tarkian battleship struggles with is being a bit pillow-fisted. Gravity weapons have the potential to be extremely damaging, but with only a fixed fore option it can be hard to get a bead on your opponent, and even with gravitational weapons' ability to ignore both shields and PD, 9 dice is just not a lot of firepower. The Tarakian battleship struggles to take down serious threats. And 8 AD torpedoes... well, you can flood the board with a lot of torpedo attacks, and they make for a great late-game finisher, but without either some kind of buff or a truly ridiculous AD total, torpedoes are a corner case weapon system in this game, and we all know it.

 

In other words, the Tarakian battleship is kind of pillowfisted... but with a trio of Griefs, suddenly it's throwing as many dice as some heavy cruiser squadrons. That's pretty good for a 45 point upgrade, with the option to spend some more points and get a significant PD bonus as well.

 

That said... the only rain on this parade is that I'm not entirely certain if you can take Oroshan escorts on non-Oroshan capitol ships. The Marauders fleet document mentions that OSO and STL escorts can be taken as Kurak/Zenian escorts, but doesn't say anything about Oroshan escorts, although the chart on the next page does say that anyone can add Oroshan ships to their list at the normal price. Despite my gushing above, I think that the intention is that Oroshan escorts are not options for allied Tier 1s... but I'm curious to read other folks' interpretation of the rules. I'd be very pleased to be wrong here.

 

Ultimately, I don't think that the Penitentiary is worth it. Using gravity guns in control mode just isn't all that impressive. It's extremely corner case, a "gotcha" weapon that will only come into play when your opponent messes up. Adding more dice makes it more reliable, but not all that much more useful.

 

At this point, I would rank the escort options in the following way (in descending order):

 

  1. Oroshan Grief (if it is an option)
  2. Hawker Stalwart
  3. Terran Guardian
  4. STL Penitentiary
  5. Aquan Kappa

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Found the rules (p2 Marauders):

Escorts

Where a ship profile in another book specifies an Alliance of Kurak or Zenian League Escort, this may also be substituted by any OSO or STL ship with an Escort designation. The appropriate cost should be paid according to whether the faction is aligned with the fleet in question (where the standard cost is paid) or not (where the bracketed cost is paid).

So, as it doesn't mention Oroshan (and thus by RAW), only Mauraders have access to Grief-Class Escorts. However, as this doesn't follow everything else in the Maurader manual, a weak case for this not being the intent can be built.

Primarily, for some reason this section is at the end of a large section for how to field Mauraders as your Core Fleet... and doesn't cover using Oroshan as your core fleet. I can see this as an editing error, where Oroshan used to be listed as an Escort option, but since the entire section doesn't mention them, the Escort section had them removed for consistency.

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Found the rules (p2 Marauders):

So, as it doesn't mention Oroshan (and thus by RAW), only Mauraders have access to Grief-Class Escorts. However, as this doesn't follow everything else in the Maurader manual, a weak case for this not being the intent can be built.

Primarily, for some reason this section is at the end of a large section for how to field Mauraders as your Core Fleet... and doesn't cover using Oroshan as your core fleet. I can see this as an editing error, where Oroshan used to be listed as an Escort option, but since the entire section doesn't mention them, the Escort section had them removed for consistency.

I think I'll email Spartan later today and see if I can't get it clarified.

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Meh. The Alliance TACs don't thrill me anyway.

Well You did mention Power to Shields (+1 Sh, half move) in the first post, when considering the Terran escort.

So the question boils now down to enhancing defense or offense capabilities.

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I'm surprised the Kontos doesn't make your list EP. Honestly it's a better pick then either of the terran options for its price, tougher then the Guardian and only slightly weaker then the Stalwart without the shield, but with better PD then both of them plus it can put the Ganak at a respectable 7 AP.

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I'm surprised the Kontos doesn't make your list EP. Honestly it's a better pick then either of the terran options for its price, tougher then the Guardian and only slightly weaker then the Stalwart without the shield, but with better PD then both of them plus it can put the Ganak at a respectable 7 AP.

 

Kontos? Whose is that?

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Actually, that's pretty good. I don't know how I missed it. 12 extra PD dice? Added to the Ganak/Sanarl's 6 is 18... that really is a tower of "screw you torpedoes and SRSs." And the bonus AP dice are pretty nice, too. 7 AP isn't a lot, but it'll mess up  a Tier 3 who gets too close. It does give up on being particularly durable, but then again, escorts aren't there to be durable, and if your opponent is shooting at them, he's not shooting at the huge honking battleship they're flying with.

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Additionally, I have always wanted to paint some Sorylian models...

 

Ok, that settles it. My "getting back into Tarakians" order is going to be:

 

1 full squadron of the old cruisers

1 full squadron of the old frigates

Tarakian patrol fleet box

Hawker excelsior-class battleship (because I still think that will be fun to paint and work well with Tarakians)

3 Sorylian kontos-class frigates

 

I'll probably invest in the Hawker escorts anyway, when they become available, but this will be a lot of fun in the time being.

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