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I grabbed a blister of some minis to test paint schemes and document the process so I may replicate with some manner of fidelity and consistency.

If this thread is too graphic intensive just yell at me and I'll just provide hyperlinks or something.

Remember, these are just test minis... So don't be too harsh! :-D

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You also need a second sergeant for your line infantery section ;) Quite a workload you have there, I hope you enjoy the game.

For my army I'm expending 50 points at the time, it looks less scary on my paint station.

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And another pack of little drummer boys as well if I've done my maths correctly. Curiously enough I have the exact same situation with my Prussian army. I need a Medic and Sergeant. Everything has been ordered and should be here this week... I ended up getting a pair of transports and an ironclad for both forces as well just to give me a few more options. :-)

 

Busy fellow, indeed, me. 

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and another LT to take 4 mainstay sections

I suppose that brings up another issue... Slightly off topic, but this is how I had it sorted.

CMD = 1 Lieutenant

MS1 = (Line Infantry Section) 1 Sergeant + 2 Specialists + 7 Riflemen + 1 Drum Urchin

MS1 = (Line Infantry Section) 1 Sergeant + 1 HMG Team + 7 Riflemen + 1 Drum Urchin

MS3 = (Black Watch Section) 1 Sergeant + 1 Specialist + 8 Riflemen + 1 Drum Urchin

VS1 = (Sky Hussars Section) 1 Captain + 1 Corporal + 1 Specialist + 2 Regulars

VS2 = (Light Dragoons) 1 Specialist + 2 Regulars

CH1 = Smethy

CH2 = Mac

BS1 = (Armstrong Section) 1 Field Gun Team + 3 Line Infantry Riflemen

BS2 = 2 Bassett Tankettes

That leaves a few unused minis in the event one breaks (by accident or intent)... And the Terrier to swap for one of the BS Sections.

I'm reasonably certain that is a legal platoon configuration, but if you notice any glaring inefficiencies or just plain poor selections I would happily take any advice you could offer.

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The Sergeant model comes with a Lieutenant, so no worries there.

 

It would be useful if we could order a Sergeant singly though, as we need 3 of those to each Lieutenant. Maybe a Sgt + trooper mini...

 

As to your army choice, all seems good, you'll likely want to drop the Bassets for the Terrier as soon as you get one. I have yet to get my points worth out of the Bassets.

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The Sergeant model comes with a Lieutenant, so no worries there.

 

It would be useful if we could order a Sergeant singly though, as we need 3 of those to each Lieutenant. Maybe a Sgt + trooper mini...

 

As to your army choice, all seems good, you'll likely want to drop the Bassets for the Terrier as soon as you get one. I have yet to get my points worth out of the Bassets.

 

That is my fear... once I finished up the Terrier I will probably end up 'moth-balling' the Bassetts... if for no other reason than efficacy deficit between the two options... but then again, horses for courses and that... so they cannot be rightfully eliminated entirely as options.

I just checked the tracking on my parcels with the guttersnipe drummer pack (on which I think a Dickensian paint scheme, bits of soot on the face, etc... may work well, particularly with the sans shoe model), the Lt + Sgt pack, 2x Conveyors and the Terrier. All are on course to arrive tomorrow.

To your point of making the Sergeants available in blisters... that would make much sense. I like what was done with the Black Watch Sergeant and Specialist pack. I found that to fit the void well when building out my Black Watch section.

 

Cheers for all the advice... I appreciate it.

Now, bring on the Gurkhas, please!

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Unfortunately, it is rather cost and time prohibitive to place small orders for those of us who reside in America... it may not necessarily be the case for those who live on the continent though...

 

So, I end up with a few more officer minis than I require... Maybe I'll devise a house rule that allows for a whole section of officers. Who wants to beta test that idea? :D

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That is my fear... once I finished up the Terrier I will probably end up 'moth-balling' the Bassetts... if for no other reason than efficacy deficit between the two options... but then again, horses for courses and that... so they cannot be rightfully eliminated entirely as options.

I just checked the tracking on my parcels with the guttersnipe drummer pack (on which I think a Dickensian paint scheme, bits of soot on the face, etc... may work well, particularly with the sans shoe model), the Lt + Sgt pack, 2x Conveyors and the Terrier. All are on course to arrive tomorrow.

To your point of making the Sergeants available in blisters... that would make much sense. I like what was done with the Black Watch Sergeant and Specialist pack. I found that to fit the void well when building out my Black Watch section.

 

Cheers for all the advice... I appreciate it.

Now, bring on the Gurkhas, please!

 

It really belongs on the KoB forum rather than the hobby one, but coming from the perspective of a FSA player, I do feel that Bassets can be used effectively. It is true that it is probable they won't make their points back by killing models, but then again I use my Treadbikes in 3 model sections, and they really don't kill enough to make their points back either.

 

The big thing is that both units can make themselves useful by controlling your opponent. Bassets can be used to put pressure on the points of the line that are most vulnerable, are tough enough (and expendable enough) to remain exposed to the enemy for long periods of time forcing your opponent to focus on them. They are good at getting to the side armor of vehicles, and can be good APC hunters and with luck trying to cripple an opponents small tank.

 

That said, the Terrier will be a beast, but it is important to remember that the Terrier costs 60 points, and will still be difficult to make its points back as well, because of its reduced maneuverabillity, restricted firing arcs, and unlike in other games it really won't be able to take out entire units. Like the Bassets, the Terriers main power will actually come in its psychological impacts on the opponents battle plan. 

 

The Terrier is expensive to field at 60 points, it is more powerful than the Bassets, but also 24 points more expensive.

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It really belongs on the KoB forum rather than the hobby one, but coming from the perspective of a FSA player, I do feel that Bassets can be used effectively. It is true that it is probable they won't make their points back by killing models, but then again I use my Treadbikes in 3 model sections, and they really don't kill enough to make their points back either.

 

The big thing is that both units can make themselves useful by controlling your opponent. Bassets can be used to put pressure on the points of the line that are most vulnerable, are tough enough (and expendable enough) to remain exposed to the enemy for long periods of time forcing your opponent to focus on them. They are good at getting to the side armor of vehicles, and can be good APC hunters and with luck trying to cripple an opponents small tank.

 

That said, the Terrier will be a beast, but it is important to remember that the Terrier costs 60 points, and will still be difficult to make its points back as well, because of its reduced maneuverabillity, restricted firing arcs, and unlike in other games it really won't be able to take out entire units. Like the Bassets, the Terriers main power will actually come in its psychological impacts on the opponents battle plan. 

 

The Terrier is expensive to field at 60 points, it is more powerful than the Bassets, but also 24 points more expensive.

Duly noted. This did rather meander off topic a bit... I do appreciate the advice though.

Back on topic, my army is coming along... My Lt. And MS1 and MS2 are now primed and ready for painting!

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Looking good ole chap. I find it is hard not to make an effort with the Britannian's.
I too am crossing fingers for Sparta to bring out some Gurkha or Brit Raj miniatures. 

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I assembled about half of my Black Watch section before work this morning... :-D

 

Those fellas that are crouched and aiming down the sights are a little tricky. They seem a bit more slender to me than some (which is probably because they burn a lot more calories running riot kicking the snot out of everything) so I was particularly careful pinning the arms and that, but after a bit of studied manipulation they came together beautifully and made what feels like a very strong bond.

 

I'll finish assembling the remainder and prime them this evening along with those extra little fellas with the drums and the officer I picked up because I needed another Sergeant... :rolleyes:

 

On a side note, I've read a few things about mispacks, missing bits and the like... I'm wondering if it is a vocal minority, a common happening or just my horrible luck. The reason I ask is that my Dragoons only came with 2 guns to split between the three of them (new house rule, the one sans weapon breathes fire until the weapon arrives)... and wouldn't you know it, this week when my Prussian army arrived... I was just having a look in at them and there was a Basset hull in my box of Kettenkarre Tankettes.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not moaning about it... Lizzie responded to my e-mail, was very kind about everything and they are getting me sorted. However, I live in America now so it will understandably take a bit of time... mayhaps I should order extras just in case so I can keep things progressing? Any suggestions?

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Mispacks are not too bad. I've had worse from other companies. The vocal minority (me included) are being vocal, as this is a relatively new game, and by posting about our issues, and their resolution, we're letting the rest of the community see how things work.ç, as well as giving feedback to Spartan via their forums.

 

I'm in Canada, and the bits I got due to a mispack came really quickly after the email from Lizzie, so I don't expect you'll have to wait too long either. I don't think you'll have to invest in too much extra 'just in case'.

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Re: 'The Case of the Defecting Basset'

Excellent to hear. Like I mentioned, I didn't intend for it to sound like me whinging. Quite the contrary, I was quite impressed with the how pleasant and kind everyone has been this far...

Just wrapped up the Black Watch section preparation... I'll prime them after a bit and perhaps post a pic or two, because I know everybody wants to see primed minis. After all, a primed mini is considered 'table-top quality' these days, innit? X-D

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Just wrapped up the Black Watch section preparation... I'll prime them after a bit and perhaps post a pic or two, because I know everybody wants to see primed minis. After all, a primed mini is considered 'table-top quality' these days, innit? X-D

 

It does for me!

 

Post away, it'll help you keep motivated to finish the rather large pile of lead you showed off in your first post! :P

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Mainstay Sections, primed with Army Painter Matt White Spray Primer... it is good stuff.

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According to the thread regarding base sizes for certain classes of mini, sergeants are meant to be stood on a 30mm base... How am I meant to get this geezer sorted? Am I missing something? He's a sergeant, no? The only thing I can think is to clean up his non-planted foot, but the peg looks as if it is meant to be left... Mayhaps I'll file the slot a bit and see if he can squeeze in.

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Apologies about the focus... When I get something that really is worth having a look at I'll use a better camera than an iPad.

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Cheers for the advice guys... He almost looks like some sort of wizard levitating there a bit, but once I get him based he should be okay.

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I am working on the HMG, Armstrong and the tankettes this evening. I found another box of Bassets in an apparently forgotten corner of my FLGS so I picked them up in order to mitigate any trepidation I may experience whilst experimenting.

I also picked up some Tamiya and Secret Weapon weathering pigments to see which I prefer (read: can effectively be used by the lesser skilled among us). I'll post photos of the successes, and failures, of the aforementioned experiments... It may help someone in the future... or give them a laugh. :-)

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I've not been completely idle... I am to the point now where I am ready to actually paint something now...

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Now these smoke trails... I'm now thinking it may've been easier to prime them black and drybrush the whites up gradually and tip them off with that yellow->red->white hot or whatever combination...

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I'm rather looking forward to experimenting with weathering these treads... Or at least trying to do.

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