quiet01 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Orbats? We don't need no stinken Orbats! As Ryjak correctly points out(but incorrectly names) we have Fleet Manuals in the form of Living PDF documents. I believe I read that they are to be updated to reflect the changes quite soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pok Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 So now that the Models for the Patrol fleet have been released does anyone have an idea where to find the stats for the Alkonost Class Assault Carrier ? Usually the Orbats update just before releases but this time they didn't, the Kurak alliance Orbat still only lists the dreadnought, both types of cruisers and the frigates. I am interested in seeing the stats for this model, surely I'm not the only one. Well, they still haven't bothered putting the Overseer box stats up, so who knows? Apparently keeping FA files up to date isn't that much of a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bessemer Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 For the ROTO ships. their probably waiting till the vessels in question to be released individually, seeing as the rules are in the box. Still, the new Terquai ship should be up by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyWabbit99 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I'm just wondering what to do about my Terquai Assault Carrier I can't really use it without knowing its stats and I've been wanting to use it asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryjak Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 All you can really do is patiently wait for Spartan Games to update the alliance of Kurak Fleet manual. Normally, updates are released the date models are released… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyWabbit99 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 All you can really do is patiently wait for Spartan Games to update the alliance of Kurak Fleet manual. Normally, updates are released the date models are released… I wonder if there is anyway a Spartan member could be questioned for a potential time frame ? I have left posts on the facebook page and here hoping it would be seen but no avail really, I am rather disappointed that I can't use the model I have because the rules aren't ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magarch Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 And...we have the stats! It's in a separate PDF in the download section for Firestorm Armada. There's a typo in the title (it says "Dreadnought Resulka Class"), but oh well! http://www.spartangames.co.uk/wp/wp/wp-content/spartanimg/FA_Terquai_Assault_Carrier_Statistics.pdf Sure, the fleet lists don't allow actually to take since they are not updated for now, but at least we know what this sweet thing can do. It's actually quite a good carrier, with high DR/CR and good firepower. Options are straigthforward and it can have a nice punch in boarding if played with an Assault Carrier in Accompaniment. Libran Commodore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 I like it one of these with an assault cruiser accompnaiment and a squad of assult cruisers is really going to be nasty ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailion Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Yay! Gonna check them out, thanks guys. Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyWabbit99 Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 This is a lot stronger then I originally gave thought too, playing this unit will definitely be effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabiusm Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 northerndragons, Ryjak, darkjedi203 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaleth Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Im looking foward to paint them and test them as a single force. So assault carriers in kurak fleets? How do we use them in the lists? Theres still no allowence for them in the patrol / battle fleets right? Do they count as carriers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryjak Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 While several Fleet Guides need to be updated to allow new units (like Aquan Gunships) everyone should understand these units are allowed in the game. For the Terquai Assault Carrier, I would follow the Zenian charts, which allow: Patrol Fleet: 1 Assault Carrier Battle Fleet: 2 Assault Carriers Grand Fleet: 3 Assault Carriers Libran Commodore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailion Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Thanks Alex and Ryjak . Nice, so can plan battle fleet level collection.. Muhaha yes. Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailion Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Also, sweet unboxing video Fabiusm. Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBPB Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 @ Alex. Found another very small typo into the pdf Alkonost profil. The Aural is listed as an accompaniment. Should be an Arual... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryjak Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Because no one reads my site (ops-center.weebly.com) I felt I should just leave this here: darkjedi203 and azrael 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkjedi203 Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Nice, how did you do the red/orange colour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryjak Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 I didn't, but I can try to ask the gentleman who received them last Friday, painted the entire fleet Saturday, and got stomped in a Tournament on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamebeast Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 So, considering the following for my next fleet, thoughts?Alkonost-class Assault Carrier, +2 WC, +1 Sh, Corrosive Torpedoes, 6 Bombers 3x Turale-class Torpedo Cruisers, Sector Shielding, Corrosive Torpedoes 3x Turale-class Torpedo Cruisers, Sector Shielding, Corrosive Torpedoes 4x Sular-class Frigates, Pack Hunters 800pts on the dot. Up to 7x 7AD torpedo attacks with corrosive per turn, though obviously fewer but bigger with linking. Frigates hug the Carrier to get extra PD from the bombers until things get close, then split off to do nasty things with their potentially 14AD gunracks (at rb2, 5 base, 7 from linking, 2 from pack hunters).I think the Assault Cruisers are tasty as well so I'll probably end up magnetizing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oml Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 I'll hopefully be the owner of a shiny new terquai fleet from next month but the one problem I foresee is the lack of tier 3 options in the patrol box. I already have 4 cruisers plus the dreadnought on order. Once the patrol box is received I'd have the points for a battle fleet but not 2 x tier 3. How are people getting around that? I've read the fleet building guide and while I can't confess to knowing all the nuances of list building it looks like you have to take two terquai tier 3's before adding other nations? Is that right? Are people proxying? Any advice happily received Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewyvernx Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Mostly people who play pure support fleet factions get around this by one of the following methods: 1) Buy another patrol fleet box. Obviously not a great option for a player on a budget, but sometimes still worth it, especially if you really want to run two of the tier 1 models. I did this for Works Raptor, as Attritions are amazing. 2) At battle fleet levels, field two half-sized squadrons of your tier 3, and then play the Regroup TAC on them turn 1. Some players hate this, there is a whole thread on the "gamesmanship" of this Tactic elsewhere. 3) Proxy. Some players hate this. It is what it is. I do it all the time when I play certain factions such as the Syndicate. My advice is get another patrol fleet box. The Alkonost points value is in battleship range, so using two of them in a battle fleet isn't entirely insane, and could be very fun. Plus, more cruisers is never a bad thing when your two choices are both awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oml Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Cheers. I'd thought of option 2 but agree with the possible gamesmanship issue. I'll think on the other ideas. My main fleet is aquans thus the reason for Terquai. Just seemed a shame not to be able to use them as they are. Maybe one day they'll get individual models although it feels like the newer stuff doesn't get the 'single' model treatment these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Patrol boxes are intended for patrol fleet level games. Hence the name. If you want to play bigger games you need two boxes. This is true for all of the alliance/zenian minor races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenchimato Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 So, considering the following for my next fleet, thoughts? Alkonost-class Assault Carrier, +2 WC, +1 Sh, Corrosive Torpedoes, 6 Bombers 3x Turale-class Torpedo Cruisers, Sector Shielding, Corrosive Torpedoes 3x Turale-class Torpedo Cruisers, Sector Shielding, Corrosive Torpedoes 4x Sular-class Frigates, Pack Hunters 800pts on the dot. Up to 7x 7AD torpedo attacks with corrosive per turn, though obviously fewer but bigger with linking. Frigates hug the Carrier to get extra PD from the bombers until things get close, then split off to do nasty things with their potentially 14AD gunracks (at rb2, 5 base, 7 from linking, 2 from pack hunters). I think the Assault Cruisers are tasty as well so I'll probably end up magnetizing them. Hi, looks like a pretty tough list, not much more you can do at 800pts (btw you have 5pts left, suggest you buy 'special forces' for your Carrier). Otherwise Iam not sold on the corrosive lists efficiency but I shall give it another try. I usually prefer to play assault style lists, adding High Energy to Torpedo cruisers and mixing with an Assault cruisers squadron (usually kept in reserve) or/and a combined Carrier-assault cruiser squadron. The Carrier seems extremely potent with an Assault cruiser as support (too bad there isnt a fourth cruiser in the Patrol Fleet box as in the RSN one). Suggest you reserve your frigates for shunt/side edge entry. Have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
