S..Mike 213 Report post Posted August 4, 2017 Admin note, Terran re-stat moved to its own thread here: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murphy'slawofcombat 130 Report post Posted August 4, 2017 I also thought that in hard points you only get to pick one as in BB and DN's get 3 picks up it to 2 for heavys and BC's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azrael 155 Report post Posted August 7, 2017 I don't mind percentage My friend will love the opportunity to field as many dindrenzi frigates as possible (background call of "at last !") Damn he loves those mini cruisers The only thing I am seeing as a real problem is getting points for large units correct as sometimes they are nigh impossible to destroy (like a dindrenzi dreadnought) with smalls or damaged squadrons. OR they can be one shotted with a critical double 1 result. Hmmmm that's going to be hard to balance Still excited and generally very happy with what I have seen so far Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S..Mike 213 Report post Posted August 7, 2017 On 8/4/2017 at 7:33 AM, murphy'slawofcombat said: I also thought that in hard points you only get to pick one as in BB and DN's get 3 picks up it to 2 for heavys and BC's The number of allowed hard points are defined by ship class, yes. But it can vary between classes and even races. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WestAustralian 818 Report post Posted August 9, 2017 Can a Rapid Response Squadron field mixed "race" from their "core race"? eg Relthoza Iramon Light Cruisers and Bakash Kelor Frigates or does it need to be Relthoza/Relthoza? also, is a rapid response Squadron small or medium? For percentages of points spent. Or do I count the frigates as small and the light cruisers as Medium Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S..Mike 213 Report post Posted August 10, 2017 @WestAustralian The pair of races in each core (Aquan/Terquai, Relthoza/Ba'Kash, etc) can form up together in either of the special cruiser squadrons, as long as the classes are consistent to a single race. Which is to say that you can take 2 Relthoza CL and 2 Ba'Kash FF, but not 1 CL from each, and 1 FF from each. Same for Reinforced squadrons; the standard cruisers come from the same race, the reinforcing cruiser could be from either of the pair. The Rapid Response squadron counts as a Medium Squadron for fleet construction purposes. Good catch on these questions. 1 WestAustralian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hive 607 Report post Posted August 10, 2017 That's pretty awesome. Foreward guns on Iramon will sync better with Kelors than with Widows or even Nidus. I think how the natural allies interract has become my favorite aspect of the new ruleset. 1 S..Mike reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charbe86 21 Report post Posted August 16, 2017 I'm not suure if you're allowed to tell me this, but I'm looking at a taskforce box and I want to confirm that the two squadrons in there will be classed as small and medium inder the new rules before I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WestAustralian 818 Report post Posted August 16, 2017 Hi @Charbe86. I think it would be a pretty safe assumption that the Taskforce T3's will be small units and the T2's will be medium. Hopefully @Spartan_FA_Mike or @Spartan Neil will have time to pop in and confirm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoreHunter 326 Report post Posted August 16, 2017 Light cruisers are teir 3s currently I think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WestAustralian 818 Report post Posted August 16, 2017 They sure are, currently medium hull too. As stated above a Rapid Response Squadron will be classed Medium. So therefore the new fleets will relate to the Hull size only, not the Teir class. So you can't use Light Cruisers/Light Destroyers to fill out the low end of the fleet. That's a shame. So the Taskforce Smalls are small and the Mediums are still Medium. Easy enough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fracas 349 Report post Posted August 16, 2017 Question 1: will a heavy cruiser be an option for cruiser squadron? Light cruiser squadron? Escort cruiser squadron? Question 2: if vp is awarded to destroying 1/2 a squadron, won't even numbered ships in a squadron be an oddity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoreHunter 326 Report post Posted August 17, 2017 still would of liked to see a possible fleet system. Patrol. May contain the admiral on a tier 2 Line ship squadron; If so gain +1FT. 0-1 tier 1, 1-2 tier 2, and 1-2 tier 3. Combat Fleet. 1 tier 1 Capitol ship, 2-3 tier 2 Line ships, 0-1 tier 3. Battle Fleet. 1 Tier 1, 0-2 Tier 1 Capitol or Support; 1 Tier 2 line ship, 0-1 Tier 2 ; 2-3 tier 3. Dominance Fleet. 2 Tier 1 Command ships, 1 Tier 1, 0-2 Tier 3 escorts. Ambush. 2-3 Strike Cruisers, 2-3 tier 3. assault. 2-3 Advance cruisers, 1-2 tier 3. Support. If admiral is in this fleet regain 1 command point at the start of each turn. 1-2 Tier 1 Support, 1-3 tier 3s. each tier would break down to 3 groups Tier 1: Capitol ships: Battle ships and Battle carriers. Command: Dreads and Fleet Carriers. Support: Carriers and Battle Stations and Battle Cruisers. Tier 2: Line ships, Cruisers and light cruisers. Strike, Gunships and destroyers. Advance, Heavy and assault cruisers. Tier 3: Escort (defensive or support focused on attaching to or helping other squads) / Screen (long ranged supporting fire) / Engagement (close in combat). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charbe86 21 Report post Posted August 17, 2017 I still want to see a level below patrol fleet, say 500 points minimum 1 medium sq 1 small sq. Something in the intended scale of taskforce but within the FSA rule set. 1 fracas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murphy'slawofcombat 130 Report post Posted August 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Charbe86 said: I still want to see a level below patrol fleet, say 500 points minimum 1 medium sq 1 small sq. Something in the intended scale of taskforce but within the FSA rule set. you could come up with a convoy mission using a 500 pt. medium & smalls ..............that could be interesting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paradomutante 29 Report post Posted August 17, 2017 or some mission like sink the Bismask, some damaged dread and escorts vs a med+light squadron trying to destroy it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botticelli 134 Report post Posted August 17, 2017 You mean like in the last two starter boxes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charbe86 21 Report post Posted August 17, 2017 It would be nice if it didn't have to be house ruled though. It's easy enough to agree with an opponent to a small scale game, you could even just use a takforce box with armada rules, but it would be nice to have official "skirmish" rules Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paladin21 229 Report post Posted August 21, 2017 The Pathogen kickstarter document makes it sound like Armada is adopting the Planetfall model of squads in that they only have two possible sizes: attrition and battle-ready. Is this actually the case? I hate the limitation with Planetfall, because depending on your force size and build you can be forced to leave out potential reinforcements just because you can't get to the next required size. Have a few extra points and want an additional infantry guy? Too bad, you need enough points for 3 (or whatever, depending on your race) or you can't do anything. It's a poor system that limits build choices for no good reason. 1 Xerkics reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites