3rd Edition Fleet Construction

[S..Mike 213]

Admin note, Terran re-stat moved to its own thread here:

 

[murphy'slawofcombat 130]

I also thought that in hard points you only get to pick one as in BB and DN's get 3 picks up it to 2 for heavys and BC's

 

[azrael 155]

I don't mind percentage 

My friend will love the opportunity to field as many dindrenzi frigates as possible (background call of "at last !") 

Damn he loves those mini cruisers 

The only thing I am seeing as a real problem is getting points for large units correct as sometimes they are nigh impossible to destroy (like a dindrenzi dreadnought) with smalls or damaged squadrons. OR they can be one shotted with a critical double 1 result. Hmmmm that's going to be hard to balance 

 

 

Still excited and generally very happy with what I have seen so far 

[S..Mike 213]

On 8/4/2017 at 7:33 AM, murphy'slawofcombat said:

I also thought that in hard points you only get to pick one as in BB and DN's get 3 picks up it to 2 for heavys and BC's

 

The number of allowed hard points are defined by ship class, yes.  But it can vary between classes and even races.  

[WestAustralian 818]

Can a Rapid Response Squadron field mixed "race" from their "core race"?

eg Relthoza Iramon Light Cruisers and Bakash Kelor Frigates

or does it need to be Relthoza/Relthoza?

also, is a rapid response Squadron small or medium? For percentages of points spent. Or do I count the frigates as small and the light cruisers as Medium

[S..Mike 213]

@WestAustralian

The pair of races in each core (Aquan/Terquai, Relthoza/Ba'Kash, etc) can form up together in either of the special cruiser squadrons, as long as the classes are consistent to a single race.  Which is to say that you can take 2 Relthoza CL and 2 Ba'Kash FF, but not 1 CL from each, and 1 FF from each.   Same for Reinforced squadrons; the standard cruisers come from the same race, the reinforcing cruiser could be from either of the pair.

The Rapid Response squadron counts as a Medium Squadron for fleet construction purposes.  

Good catch on these questions.

[Hive 607]

That's pretty awesome. Foreward guns on Iramon will sync better with Kelors than with Widows or even Nidus. 

 

I think how the natural allies interract has become my favorite aspect of the new ruleset.

[Charbe86 21]

I'm not suure if you're allowed to tell me this, but I'm looking at a taskforce box and I want to confirm that the two squadrons in there will be classed as small and medium inder the new rules before I do.

[WestAustralian 818]

Hi @Charbe86. I think it would be a pretty safe assumption that the Taskforce T3's will be small units and the T2's will be medium.

Hopefully @Spartan_FA_Mike or @Spartan Neil will have time to pop in and confirm. 

[CoreHunter 326]

Light cruisers are teir 3s currently I think

[WestAustralian 818]

They sure are, currently medium hull too. 

As stated above a Rapid Response Squadron will be classed Medium. So therefore the new fleets will relate to the Hull size only, not the Teir class. 

So you can't use Light Cruisers/Light Destroyers to fill out the low end of the fleet. That's a shame. 

So the Taskforce Smalls are small and the Mediums are still Medium. Easy enough

[fracas 349]

Question 1: will a heavy cruiser be an option for cruiser squadron? Light cruiser squadron? Escort cruiser squadron?

Question 2: if vp is awarded to destroying 1/2 a squadron, won't even numbered ships in a squadron be an oddity?

 

[CoreHunter 326]

still would of liked to see a possible fleet system.

Patrol. May contain the admiral on a tier 2 Line ship squadron; If so gain +1FT. 0-1 tier 1, 1-2 tier 2, and 1-2 tier 3.

Combat Fleet. 1 tier 1 Capitol ship, 2-3 tier 2 Line ships, 0-1 tier 3.

Battle Fleet. 1 Tier 1, 0-2 Tier 1 Capitol or Support; 1 Tier 2 line ship, 0-1 Tier 2 ; 2-3 tier 3.

Dominance Fleet. 2 Tier 1 Command ships, 1 Tier 1, 0-2 Tier 3 escorts.

Ambush. 2-3 Strike Cruisers, 2-3 tier 3.

assault. 2-3 Advance cruisers, 1-2 tier 3.

Support. If admiral is in this fleet regain 1 command point at the start of each turn. 1-2 Tier 1 Support, 1-3 tier 3s.

each tier would break down to 3 groups

Tier 1: Capitol ships: Battle ships and Battle carriers. Command: Dreads and Fleet Carriers. Support: Carriers and Battle Stations and Battle Cruisers.

Tier 2: Line ships, Cruisers and light cruisers. Strike, Gunships and destroyers. Advance, Heavy and assault cruisers.

Tier 3: Escort (defensive or support focused on attaching to or helping other squads) / Screen (long ranged supporting fire) / Engagement (close in combat).

[Charbe86 21]

I still want to see a level below patrol fleet, say 500 points minimum 1 medium sq 1 small sq.  Something in the intended scale of taskforce but within the FSA rule set.

[murphy'slawofcombat 130]

4 hours ago, Charbe86 said:

I still want to see a level below patrol fleet, say 500 points minimum 1 medium sq 1 small sq.  Something in the intended scale of taskforce but within the FSA rule set.

you could come up with a convoy mission using a 500 pt. medium  & smalls ..............that could be interesting 

[Paradomutante 29]

or some mission like sink the Bismask, some damaged dread and escorts vs a med+light squadron trying to destroy it.

[Botticelli 134]

You mean like in the last two starter boxes?

[Charbe86 21]

It would be nice if it didn't have to be house ruled though. It's easy enough to agree with an opponent to a small scale game, you could even just use a takforce box with armada rules, but it would be nice to have official "skirmish" rules

[Paladin21 229]

The Pathogen kickstarter document makes it sound like Armada is adopting the Planetfall model of squads in that they only have two possible sizes: attrition and battle-ready.  Is this actually the case?  I hate the limitation with Planetfall, because depending on your force size and build you can be forced to leave out potential reinforcements just because you can't get to the next required size.  Have a few extra points and want an additional infantry guy?  Too bad, you need enough points for 3 (or whatever, depending on your race) or you can't do anything.  It's a poor system that limits build choices for no good reason.