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Terquai and Xelocians incoming

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I've been on a mission lately to find as many of the older models as I can, and I'm happy I did. Aside from the dreadnought and the frigates, the Xelocian models are just boring.

I'm really starting to think Spartan has lost its ability to just go mad when it comes to model design.

And don't get me started on the Terquai. Whoever signed off on them needs to replace the captain of his/her brain ship, because he's drunk at the wheel

 

Spartan’s newly developed metal allergy is clearly hampering their style.

 

There exist limits to what you can do with resin and laser cut acryl alone.

 

And standardizing “Drop-ons” isn’t helping either.

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From a military standpoint, universal parts(a'la drop ons) makes maintaining and repairing combat vessels much more efficient and economical.

I like that Spartan has adopted a similar approach. I do not care for radically different ships within a faction.

 

I like uniformity within a range too, but I don’t like for mediums to get almost as large as Battleships because otherwise the Battleships engine drop-on won’t fit.

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I actually like the new designs for the Terquai and Xelocian ships, in particular the Terquai ships (that dreadnought is seriously mean looking as dreads go). The only thing that gets me is the Terquai small SRS token. They look like Cylon Raiders with their wings put on the wrong way! 

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It was from a blog post on a fan page..not sure if the owner would like to be credited.

Anyway..models.

Terquai patrol fleet looks nice to me..not sure about the dread, looks a lot like the omnidyne one.

It's funny I actually said the exact same thing yesterday when I saw them. The dread certainly has a very omnidyne feeling to it.

I really dig the Terquai patrol fleet even if the frigates are little fatties. That carrier looks really sweet. They have a nice feeling to them. It is a bit of a shame about the built in Shield walls on the sides of them though. I really enjoyed the attached sides of the old models and overall they looked much more sleek and less pudgy. But that is a limitation of how Spartan does resin. But who am I kidding? They're still pretty darn nice and I know I'll be the picking up a box.

The Xelocians are ok. Neither bad nor amazing - they're much better for casual modelers.

Zak

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I'm withholding final judgement until the physical models. While the renders have me interested in the Terquai and that Xelocian dread, renders only go so far and there's many a time where I've hated a model based on it's render only to love it when I see it in an unboxing or painted up.

The price increase is probably the unfortunate Resin Tax. A side effect of going away from using cheaper metal bits to augment models to more user friendly but costly solid resin pieces.

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I actually like the new designs for the Terquai and Xelocian ships, in particular the Terquai ships (that dreadnought is seriously mean looking as dreads go). The only thing that gets me is the Terquai small SRS token. They look like Cylon Raiders with their wings put on the wrong way!

I thought that too about the SRS small token. :o, but agree Dan quite like them too. ^_^

Waited so long for them already...

Mmm.. saw the Omi dyne reference too, so does that mean the big side panel can be a battle cruiser? Heh.. :D

Shaun

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I love the old Terquai cruiser hulls but the side panels did not look nice at all. Much prefer the newer ones. 

 

If anyone wants my old ones I am keen for a trade. I have the old 2 Assault Cruisers and 2 Torpedo Cruisers. 

 

You might want to hang onto your old ships. Spartan has been doing a lot of carriers and assault carriers with unusual escort options. It would really suck to sell off your extra ships, only to discover that the new T1 can get a cruiser of some kind as an escort. Wait and see.

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Aaaaand product description for the Terquai box says the Assault Carrier can be refitted into a Planetfall ship. Way cool.

Design-wise... I dunno. The Terquai all look good to me, I like the look of the frigates even if they're a little beefy- seems nice to have some designs that semi-bridge the usual size gap between small and non-large capitol ships.

I must say, I don't... dislike?... the Xelocian designs, I do think they're a bit same-y, would have been nice to see a few elements reorganized so that they don't look like scaled up and down versions of each other. They are cool, but they're going to be a fleet where the BBs and Dreads are only standing out due to size, which is a bit unfortunate. I also somewhat resent not having something that very obviously looks like it could be sheilding a power core- I find the non-power core elements to be consistant enough with the old design, but the old design was like 70% power core, haha. The obvious guns at the fore hint at the nosepeice of the old design, so I'm sure there are elements I can't see right now that hint at it.

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Dunno. By the looks of things, the energy core would sit pretty far down in the model- there's a good deal of boxy hull on top of it, it almost seems like you'd be removing a good half of the figure to get at where it should be.

I will say, while I still feel like the cruisers are baby BBs, a good look at the frigates changed my opinions on them, they've got more of a wedge shape to them than their larger counterparts- while the engine blocks look similar, they're definately a different ship, more reminiscent of their older counterparts than I initially thought. Its just hard to tell when they're sitting next to mama ship and its cruiserbabies.

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yeah WestAustrailian i thought of my friends down under when i converted the 50 pounds to canadian and came up with 102... the biggest selling point i gave our players was for $100 you could get a 800 point fleet... now you get 550 (and 8 ships instead of 11) and for some reason the aussie prices are more unfair

 

On Topic: i think i might also sell off my 2 torp cruisers if they cannot be escorts for the BC/Dread as i found the 'vanes' to be a little out of place, that dread has me on the fence as we already have stats for it... the model doesn't whisper sweet nothings to me... the xelocian one sure does though! 

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I like the Terquai, they have a unique look and style all their own. The Xelocians not so much. Their ships look boring and they don't seem to have any character, just vaguely oddly shaped boxes. There's no equivalent to the long cylindrical gun gun batteries of Sorylians, the sloping armour prows and underslung guns of the Directorate, the weirdly amorphous organic design of the Aquans or the vertical semi-triangular shapes of the Relthoza.

 

The old Xelocian models - I now they were meant to be a pain to put together - had a unique thing, these ones don't to me.

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I'm withholding final judgement until the physical models. While the renders have me interested in the Terquai and that Xelocian dread, renders only go so far and there's many a time where I've hated a model based on it's render only to love it when I see it in an unboxing or painted up.

The price increase is probably the unfortunate Resin Tax. A side effect of going away from using cheaper metal bits to augment models to more user friendly but costly solid resin pieces.

 

Actually i thought SG went resin because it was cheaper.

 

Look at the old (wonderful!) Ba'Kash. They had metal arms and were pretty pricey, yet great models. After them came resin only models where you glued half the arms to thier hulls. Some of them still look good but i dont like the edges on the arms creates by that method. I then thought "well they had to do it because probably too few ppl bought the old expensive Ba'Kash cruisers.

 

The same goes for Xelocians. The were great looking unique models, but quite expensive and not very easy to assemble. If i now hear the prices go up because the use resin instead of metal i have to wonder...

 

 

@drop on pieces

 

If i compare new and old lines of cruisers <=> heavy cruisers i have to say i loved that they were different models for the old lines. Yes some drop on pieces work well enough to make the models look different. But as a rule it seems to force too similar designs and hull sizes.

 

Again i thought "ok, SG is trying to streamline their production processes" and this makes things cheaper. Yet most products got more expensive.

 

Sorry but ive always loved SG for their great minitures in combination to good prices. If both miniture design quality (IN MY EYES!) go down and prices up i get less and less interested.

 

I know its just my story but thats one of the reasons im not as here as often as i used to be. I was looking forward to Planetfall for years, now i have a box and didnt even play it yet.

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