Nazduruk_Bugzappa Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 If it wasn't for the head, we could have used the Restitution as a Freedom for Dystopian Legions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbburton Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 If it wasn't for the head, we could have used the Restitution as a Freedom for Dystopian Legions The Freedom head looks basically like a traffic cone; probably not too hard to convert up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazduruk_Bugzappa Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Not at $90. FSAFTW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbburton Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Hm. good point. Make a little construction paper cone hat to put over it for DL games, maybe? Hubcap and FSAFTW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsquatch Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 How big are these monsters? Personally I love the Restitution, not the name could have been much better. I will probably never use it, but I will get 2 just to paint and display. Really whats with the name? It has got to be the lamest of all the big honking robot names. Irs a skimmer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkizzle Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 The Freedom is 1 7/16" tall. With DW being 1:1200 scale and DL being 1:48 or 1:50 scale that would make it 35-36" tall. The size of a small child... The Defiance small armored robot on the other hand is only 7/16" tall, which would make it 10.5" tall, and probably still double the size of the Restitution model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsquatch Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 So basically an Emperor class titan. I am of 2 minds here. On one side I love the model, must have it, it will be my new precious, will have it, and will field it once or twice. On the other side. I quit 40k because of such as this. DW should not become GW. BuckDharma, Green, Presidente and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerriano Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 I don't understand the hammer. Are americans famous for having hammers? Because at first (and all subsequent) glance it looks daft. Elessar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkizzle Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 I think it derives from the legend of John Henry who was a railway worker laying down tracks through the Eastern U.S. and according to folklore he raced a mechanical steam hammer to see whether he could dig a tunnel faster where he won but his heart gave out from the stress and he died with his hammer in his hand in victory. Why the hammer is given to the bigger robot and not the John Henry class robot is unclear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsquatch Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 Are the stats out yet, and where can I find them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varnos Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Are the stats out yet, and where can I find them? Last time, the stats came out 2 days before the actual robot, so considering they'll be out December 16th, I think you might find them in the download section of the spartangames site around December 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durnekell2k Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 after having played way to much fallout 3 and 4.. I keep wanting to call him liberty prime.. I will paint one for collections sake, but I dunno if I could field it in a game, it strikes me as too much super science gone wrong. Its like any Dreadnaught, great in huge games of over 2000 points, but anything less, and it seems your throwing too much at it to be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presidente Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Democracy is mandatory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyWabbit99 Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 ordered/brought my 2nd dreadbot today the Restitution will adjust very well into my 105th "Lone star" division. I like to think the soldiers added a voice box to the restitution so as it skims along it blasts out "Enemies of the Federation cower and despair. For I am become death, the destroyer of worlds" admittedly Oppenheimer wasn't born yet but remember, when something happens we cant explain blame it on a sturginium flare. Bigsquatch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnahabhain Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 ordered/brought my 2nd dreadbot today the Restitution will adjust very well into my 105th "Lone star" division. I like to think the soldiers added a voice box to the restitution so as it skims along it blasts out "Enemies of the Federation cower and despair. For I am become death, the destroyer of worlds" admittedly Oppenheimer wasn't born yet but remember, when something happens we cant explain blame it on a sturginium flare. As Oppenheimer was quoting a Hindu religious text of some age, you don't need Sturginium to explain it.... EDIT The Bhagavad Gita, also the source of his 'by the light of a 1000 suns' quote. Using the most common English translations James SillyWabbit99 and Barn0wl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsquatch Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 I still can't find either rules or how to order it. Its not on pre orders, or the store page. If it is I can't see it on my tablet. I redownloaded the orbats and no stats yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyWabbit99 Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 I am also considering hanging an FSA or Texan flag from the rocket powered hammer the model has, as an Australian who's other half is a Texan I am made aware of how patriotic they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyWabbit99 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 I'm still hopeful that we will get the rules for this beast before Christmas, I want to take mine out for a test soon as I get him magnetised and painted which probably wont be until new year but I still would like to see the stats so I know how to play him and can plan my strategy. Also as a side note. I Can't Decide if I should name him "Rockets Red Glare" (though this name might be considered rather unionist) or going more confederate "To live and die in Dixie" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thamoz Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 So... That's a nice decorative hammer that you guys won't be using! durnekell2k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaH2PO4aq Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Reading the stats now, it is impressive Edit: WTF those shooting styles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkizzle Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 I do think anyone would be mistaken to field it with the hammer. The only reason I'd think is if a player really can only have 300 points and is adamant about fielding a Dreadbot. Or if they really want to make Armored units take Morale checks. Sure the Rocket Hammer gets D6 Hullbreaker instead of D3. But the Cannons get two 21 AD attacks Close Quarter Gunnery attacks before it makes its boarding attack and even then still has Crushing Impact and Hull Breaker. But Spartan seems to have dropped any pretense about the Dreadbots supposed to be balanced with the Dreadnoughts. The DR/CR 9/12 with Rugged Construction 2 is crazy. The Enterprise only has 8/13 and the Shield 3 the Restitution starts with internal brings the naval dread to 310 points. It's Rockets are 21/18/15 compared to the Enterprise 11/12/14. The gunnery is 29/23/20/17 compared to 27/23/19/15 but the Dreadbot has Close Quarter Gunnery, and can hit Diving and Obscured models with no penalty on 3+ in RB4. Nothing is safe. Plus because the Dreadbot has fewer Guns it is more damage resistant while being tougher. Plus the Dreadbot has their normal lack of vulnerability to boarding and 360° MV and is faster than any FSA Large at 7" Mv. Yes the Dreadbot provides 500 points if killed but the Dreadnought is at 410 points and 720 if Prized. durnekell2k and Elessar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkizzle Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 But the biggest shame is that they have done nothing to address the horrible balance that the FSA Armored Theater has. The only way the army is viable is completely relying upon the Yorktown's. The rest of the army doesn't have a single strength to use against their opponents. They have no RB 3 AD, and they have lower RB 1-2 AD than basically all of their opponents. It's an absolute joke trying to field them against the KoB especially. Then you have the Philadelphia vs Washington. They are the exact same ship. The Washington costs 145 points. The Philadelphia 150. But the Washington cannot link it's turrets, has less Sustained Fire, does not bring Infantry to the table, has lower broadsides, and lower AA. There is no way that I'm going to field the Dreadbot in my navy or army. I enjoy providing a fun game to my opponent and I do not find it fun to play against these models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaH2PO4aq Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Yes, I am a FSA player and I really like the model and the Shooting styles are awesome! I really don't see why you would want the hammer (maybe if you really enjoy forcing tests in an armoured battle?), I also would expect that you lose the Hull-breaker MAR when taking the guns. The stats seem to be a bit too powerful. I can't really tell until I played with it but on first glance it is really really strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkizzle Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 The rules don't say you lose anything by removing the Hammer. Just that the Hammer boosts the Hull Breaker from D3 to D6. That implies that without the Hammer you still have Hull Breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaH2PO4aq Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Yeah that is exactly what I mean, I phrased it poorly. I would expect that you would lose Hull-Breaker, just like with the Ayakashi. However according to the Orbat you don't lose it, which is weird and makes the hammer even weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
