chrisbburn Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Hi All Quick question. Are the mediums suppose to be about the same size as todays real life modern armor (M1A1, Challenger 2) or smaller ie (Bradley, Scimitar etc). I have assumed that the heavies are meant to be bigger than todays armor but not wildly bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Medium are quite the same size than Leclerc (or M1A), shorter but larger. Sorry I don't have the models here so I can't give you more accurate answer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Drakere Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 It depends on the actual scale of Planetfall and how accurately scaled the infantry are. x) If you go by the 1:182 scaling the Spartan Games site states, then the Terran Heimdahl is a fair bit bigger than an M1A1, being 10'9"/3.27 meters taller, 32'10"/10.01 meters long (M1A1 is only as long due to gun barrel sticking out) and 17'11"/5.46 meters wide. I'm not entirely convinced the scale given on website is accurate though, as if true, infantrymen for TA are apparently 8'11"/2.73 meters tall! Even with gear, humans either have grown a lot in the far future or something is off there. x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxToreador Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 A medium base is 60mm long, game is 10mm scale or 1:182 60mm x 182 = 10920mm = a little under 36 feet M1 Abrams is JUST over 32 feet so yeah roughly the right size on the tanks at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Drakere Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 The base isn't the actual length of the tank, measuring hull end to tip is 55mm, and also the M1A1's length is with the gun facing Forward and includes the barrel length, which stretches a fair bit farther than the tank's hull itself, whilst the Terran doesn't. It's a good 25%+ bigger than the Abrams. Edit: Full comparison Height Heimdahl - 10'9" / 3.27 Meters M1A1 - 8' / 2.44 Meters Length Heimdahl - 32'10" / 10.01 meters M1A1 Hull only - 26' / 7.93 meters Width Heimdahl - 17'11" / 5.46 meters M1A1 - 12' / 3.66 meters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbburn Posted December 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Thank for the answers. I guess what I am asking is what should the medium represent I assume its very much like the old C&C games. The mediums are todays MBTs and the Heavy are the future Mammoth tanks from c&C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxToreador Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 My point was the medium bases are mostly covered by the majority of models available that use them, so if the base is 36ish feet then its a reasonably similar size. Medium tanks within the modern armies seem to be growing by about a meter in length every generation anyway. Ex. an M1A1 would be ~53mm long in 10mm scale barrel incl, ~44mm hull only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Drakere Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 That would be a good comparison of roles, provided you remember you can only have a few Mamoth tanks usually! ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkizzle Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Not with how I played the original C&C. Castle up and build 10 Mammoths to crush the enemy under your massive treads. Granted I guess that was only for one or two missions, but I played those ones a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmadan Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 I did a similar comparison between the Valenfyre and the Leopard 2, and came to the conclusion that the Valenfyre was similar in length and with (slightly larger), but much taller, and thus having a much larger overall volume (considering more crew and a nuclear reactor onboard, I wasn't really surprised...) The new models seem smaller though, so I'd say they are only slightly larger than modern armour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhoh22 Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 I thought most planetfall infantry was wearing powered armour or environment suits... so that extra 2 feet of hight on them humans could be attributed to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_990 Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 We are taller than ancient people on average today... maybe we average 2 feet taller by the time Planetfall takes place? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 It depends on the actual scale of Planetfall and how accurately scaled the infantry are. x) If you go by the 1:182 scaling the Spartan Games site states, then the Terran Heimdahl is a fair bit bigger than an M1A1, being 10'9"/3.27 meters taller, 32'10"/10.01 meters long (M1A1 is only as long due to gun barrel sticking out) and 17'11"/5.46 meters wide. I'm not entirely convinced the scale given on website is accurate though, as if true, infantrymen for TA are apparently 8'11"/2.73 meters tall! Even with gear, humans either have grown a lot in the far future or something is off there. x) Actually the question is whether the scale is 10mm or 1:182 10mm scale is 1:161 1:182 is 8.85mm I thought most planetfall infantry was wearing powered armour or environment suits... so that extra 2 feet of hight on them humans could be attributed to that! at 1:182 scale the infantry is 2.73m tall while at 10mm scale they are a mere 2.42m which makes the bulk of the infantry a slight more acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoP Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 When I compare to my DZC start set [...] (I'm doing a side-by-side comparison for the blog - the infantry one is almost cruel). I'm looking forward to that comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...