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To quote the rule book:

 

The game uses heroic 28mm (32mm foot-to-eye) scale Models.

 

 

James

Is that what the rulebook says? If so whoever wrote it is going to hell for lying.

 

The models are 32mm 34mm and tower over 28mm heroic.

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Here is a photo I just took of a legions model next to a 28mm heroic model.

As you can see the legions model is a full head taller while having similar sized head and hands so legions would seem to be closer to true scale. I haven't found any other range rather is of similar scale at all.

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Just found out a ruler and measured some of my legions models PE medic, line infantry + specialist, officer, KoB line infantry) and the model in the above photo along with some other similar ones.

 

The DL models all measure 34 (+- 0.5)mm from the base of the foot to the eye ball and seem to be about 36mm tall, most of them have helmets though.

 

The models that define 28mm heroic all measure 28 +-0.5mm from foot to the eye ball measured the same way.

 

So DL models are 34mm*.

 

Models are often stated to be true scale or heroic scale, true scale models have the correct proportions for everything relative to their height. Heroic scale models have larger heads, hands, shoulders, guns etc than they should.

 

Legions models by inspection seem to be heroic scale, the change is less pronounced than it is in 28mm heroic though.

 

I did a quick find in the rule book and all I could find is on page 7 "Welcome to the world of Dystopian Legions, an exciting game of
tabletop combat using heroic scale miniatures"

 

The spartan website it seems (or more accurately it's author) is also going to hell for lying as it states:

"DYSTOPIAN LEGIONS is a fast-paced, action-packed 32mm (foot to eye) scale tabletop game set in the exciting world of Dystopian Wars, where Victorian super science fiction has created a fascinating and brutal arena for a deadly world war."

http://www.spartangames.co.uk/products/dystopian-world/dystopian-legions

 

 

Edit:

*I just measured some EotBS impieral rifles and ashigaru and the ashigaru measure 32mm while the imperial rifles seem 33mm.

Side by siding an imperial rifle with a PE landwehr (who measures 34mm) one can see that the imperial rifleman man is slightly smaller.

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I think 34 mm is as good a description as any. PE, especially grenadiers, could be described as taller than average.

It is most definitely not 28mm however, nor would I like to be (then again, considering the scale creep of the largest 28mmH company, a lot of those models are upwards of 32-34mm as well, so it depends on what you mean by 28mm Heroic...)

When looking at terrain I usually look for 1/48 or 1/56, although a few 28mm (Heroic) buildings have been used as well (works fairly well, medeival buildings are usually a bit on the small side IRL)

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Alexmann, but the quote you put up there talks about 28mm models being 30mm to the top of the head because the 28mm is to the eye.

 

The problem here is that SG partially markets their models at 28mm yet there isn't any backing for this. The models are designed at 32-34 mm to the eye, so trying to bill the models as 28mm adds nothing but just makes people distrust what SG tells them.

 

The models are 32mm and SG would have been a lot more successful with DL if they didn't have people constantly blasting their name across the internet for marketing 28mm yet making models that dwarf them.

 

I actually think that the variation in size between the DL models is very odd. The FSA infantry seems to be 30-32mm,  the Prussian Grenadiers are 34mm.

 

That said, Warmachine and Wild West Exodus infantry both are almost identical scales, Malifaux and Infinity models are basically the same height but a little skinnier.

 

On the front of the popular 28mm (heroic) scale game the models are much shorter, but the same girth as DL, so while they look completely different displayed next to each other they don't look as odd mixed on the table.

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And I'm really not saying that the larger size is an issue. I really like the size of the models and the detail available on them.

But I will say that advertising the game initially at 28mm just made it a struggle to get people to take the rules seriously after they saw how much larger the models were than actual 28mm models.

I think that it is right to have our 32ish mm models... but I think it's a bad idea for them to start marketing the game as 28mm again. They changed all references from 28mm initially to 32mm so I just do not understand why they are going back.

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I agree, fortykay is dying and bleeding out very fast. And i agree that they shouldnt say they sell 28mm if it is 32-34mm.

 

Still I love SG their infantry models more then the ones from the evil company. They are to cumbersome, the sizes don't fit, (Guns are bigger then the model), i'm not a fan of that. I like the true scale more :)

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