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    alamo reacted to murphy'slawofcombat in What is it you want to see?   
    I think the reason that there is so much negative feed back on this site is that we are being left out of the "loop". what I mean by the loop is not getting back to the forum with promised info and not keeping deadlines.  this forum would be a lot bigger with a more diverse group of people if it wasn't for that. People get fed up with promises not being kept. I know you want positive feed back on this thread but there is no way to make this sound up beat. I do not know how big Spartan games is nor do I know how big the paid staff Neil has but if Neil wants to do this with volunteers he will always have a problem with keeping deadlines. I feel that that is the biggest problem with this forum. As soon as Neil starts keeping his deadlines keeping the forum informed and taking an interest in what we are saying, then and only then will you see a big difference in this forum and that will be very positive. I also feel that Neil should do monthly pols with a list of ideas to this body to help him steer the game.@Neil do not get me wrong sir it is your game that we play but we loyal fans want to make this game great. we want to expand this game and we want more people to play it.  we want to make it so everyone would want to play it. if I have said anything that makes you mad I'm sorry. I am sure there are a lot of people who will agree with me here.  we want this game to grow.
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    alamo reacted to Overread in What is it you want to see?   
    Try not to think of Uncharted as a wound but a learning opportunity. Take what you learned from it and put that into your other games to avoid the same problems. I think the biggest legacy with Uncharted isn't that the line of models ended and killed the game. 
     
    The legacy is that fans saw a lot of talk and noise from yourself about how uncharted was going to be updated; was going to have new things; was a project you really wanted to work on. But all the talk came to nothing and soon it was going direct order only and then dead. Fans of the other games saw that happen and then when they see Firestorm or Dystopian or any other game get into that phase of missed releases or of talk and no action (remembering that action doesn't have to be new releases only); they see a pattern and get worried that its going to repeat. 
    I think that's why you get a lot of hype around failed events here, because one or two and suddenly its "uncharted" all over again. At least for those fans who are on the outside of things; who are not day to day involved. Gamers like to think that their investment in time and money will stick around with the company supporting their game for a long while; you've got to convince people that 10 years time they'll still be playing Dystopian and Firestorm - sure the models will be updated; sure new things will have come and some old things gone but hte game will still be supported and SG still around. 
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    alamo got a reaction from Benchpresser in What is it you want to see?   
    spartan neil, the steering comm is  a great idea as. long as they understand the parameters you set for the group  also timely feedback from you or  someone you appoint is critical................remember the  old ucs focus groups?
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    alamo got a reaction from Pawprint in So, uh... Fighter combat.   
    while i was greatly surprised to find the ad in my inbox and while it does look good and has many facets going for it......i do wonder if this is something...
    we buy into and wait for other factions,cards etc. to come out?  at an undetermined time?
    is this ala 'taskforce', buy and then wait on future rules etc.?
    is this like invasion where i buy the factions and the game goes silent while the models and rules change?  till it gets released. aka planetfall 
    is this like uncharted where we buy and despite promises made it slipped silently under the waves
    will there be a dedicated forum person to answer queries etc.?  aka medusa radar question over 4 years and counting.
    is this a one-shot deal or something that will be expanded on and grow?
    it is true this game does have appeal in fast playtime plus a nice plug for armada i still have reservations over purchases given the past track record. please, please prove me wrong and i do indeed hope the game is a hit.
    btw the email was the only thing ive seen about this game?????????????? seen any planetfall lately?
     
     
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    alamo got a reaction from WestAustralian in So, uh... Fighter combat.   
    spartan neil, as you can see by the posts there are many folks who really care and love their game and want the best for spartan games. hopefully this community and the company can patiently pull together to be successful for the future. 
    it is truly good to see the tone of this thread on the upbeat.
    btw sneaking a legions query in here..........what happened to the medusa radar station?  see scenics thread
    thank you
    pax
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    alamo got a reaction from WestAustralian in WestAussie's Planetfall   
    wes, its always a pleasure to see your work here.....something to look forward to.
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    alamo reacted to WestAustralian in WestAussie's Planetfall   
    That is where my PF journey began. Just over a year ago. 
    With Many miniatures painted in that time I noticed that I had forgotten these two:

    They have been undercoated for a year. I think they are not done yet because I was never certain what I wanted to achieve. I need to give it some thought and make sure they get done.
     
    I have been spending a lot of my Painting time of late on FSA/Taskforce, so I don't really have anything finished PF. Well looking ahead, I need to do some Dindrenzi Infantry, also on the to do list is this:



    But with the Focus on Taskforce Dindrenzi and PF Dindrenzi, I am sure I will take a colour break soon.
    Thanks for the Likes and the wonderful comments, my Painting Mojo is supported by your Support
     
    thanks for looking, sorry there was not much this week
    WA
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    alamo got a reaction from child9 in So, uh... Fighter combat.   
    @Spartan Neil, thank you or a breath of fresh air. it is truly amazing how the tone changes with good comms and understanding.  your replies and response are most welcome and bring a sense of hope and i only ask that in the future lets not let things get this far outa sorts with comms. all many of us want is to be timely informed about the games we love.
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    alamo got a reaction from Xerkics in So, uh... Fighter combat.   
    while i was greatly surprised to find the ad in my inbox and while it does look good and has many facets going for it......i do wonder if this is something...
    we buy into and wait for other factions,cards etc. to come out?  at an undetermined time?
    is this ala 'taskforce', buy and then wait on future rules etc.?
    is this like invasion where i buy the factions and the game goes silent while the models and rules change?  till it gets released. aka planetfall 
    is this like uncharted where we buy and despite promises made it slipped silently under the waves
    will there be a dedicated forum person to answer queries etc.?  aka medusa radar question over 4 years and counting.
    is this a one-shot deal or something that will be expanded on and grow?
    it is true this game does have appeal in fast playtime plus a nice plug for armada i still have reservations over purchases given the past track record. please, please prove me wrong and i do indeed hope the game is a hit.
    btw the email was the only thing ive seen about this game?????????????? seen any planetfall lately?
     
     
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    alamo got a reaction from WestAustralian in So, uh... Fighter combat.   
    while i was greatly surprised to find the ad in my inbox and while it does look good and has many facets going for it......i do wonder if this is something...
    we buy into and wait for other factions,cards etc. to come out?  at an undetermined time?
    is this ala 'taskforce', buy and then wait on future rules etc.?
    is this like invasion where i buy the factions and the game goes silent while the models and rules change?  till it gets released. aka planetfall 
    is this like uncharted where we buy and despite promises made it slipped silently under the waves
    will there be a dedicated forum person to answer queries etc.?  aka medusa radar question over 4 years and counting.
    is this a one-shot deal or something that will be expanded on and grow?
    it is true this game does have appeal in fast playtime plus a nice plug for armada i still have reservations over purchases given the past track record. please, please prove me wrong and i do indeed hope the game is a hit.
    btw the email was the only thing ive seen about this game?????????????? seen any planetfall lately?
     
     
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    alamo reacted to Pathogen in So, uh... Fighter combat.   
    I don't even know what to say...
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    alamo reacted to reddwarf in So, uh... Fighter combat.   
    What.  The.  F---.
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    alamo got a reaction from reddwarf in So, uh... Fighter combat.   
    while i was greatly surprised to find the ad in my inbox and while it does look good and has many facets going for it......i do wonder if this is something...
    we buy into and wait for other factions,cards etc. to come out?  at an undetermined time?
    is this ala 'taskforce', buy and then wait on future rules etc.?
    is this like invasion where i buy the factions and the game goes silent while the models and rules change?  till it gets released. aka planetfall 
    is this like uncharted where we buy and despite promises made it slipped silently under the waves
    will there be a dedicated forum person to answer queries etc.?  aka medusa radar question over 4 years and counting.
    is this a one-shot deal or something that will be expanded on and grow?
    it is true this game does have appeal in fast playtime plus a nice plug for armada i still have reservations over purchases given the past track record. please, please prove me wrong and i do indeed hope the game is a hit.
    btw the email was the only thing ive seen about this game?????????????? seen any planetfall lately?
     
     
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    alamo reacted to WestAustralian in So, uh... Fighter combat.   
    You the Community asked for it....
    Support for existing games... Oh wait, what, seriously, ok then.
    You the Community never asked for it....Another Game System....
    Up next, Planetfall elite Squad, a small board infantry based squad vs squad game of tactical awesomeness......
     
    OMG LOL Spartan
    Spartan Guys, I have Supported you Hard on the Forums, in the stores and with my money. But you are making this so tough. At any point during those 9 years of development you could have mentioned this to the community, started some interest, gotten some feedback. But instead secret x-wing game created in the vacuum. 
    I have no doubt the sculpts will be great. I have no doubt the game will be fun. But Please help me out, listen to the community and Communicate. 
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    alamo reacted to Operator in Operators Planetfall   
    Hi everyone, 
    So I know it is probably an odd time to be getting into PF (considering it is a little overdue an update), but I've kinda fallen for the miniatures. I picked up a starter set the other day and I think I've finally nailed down what schemes I'm going to go for. It was my first time trying out zenethial highlighting (or at least the poor mans version) and I'm pretty pleased with the result. 






    Annoyingly the gradient on the Aquan scheme really didn't come out well on this quick shots - there is a much greater contrast between the light and dark areas than the iPhone camera can pick up. Really need to get my decent camera out at some point! 
    The real question is how am I going to paint my lovely Dindrenzi... 
    Anyway thanks for reading! Comments always welcome
    Op
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    alamo reacted to Flamebeast in Firestorm Armada 3.0 Designer Feedback Thread   
    We're all on hold. I can't make a decision either way until I know the facts, and neither can anyone else. All I can do is try to make sure the die are cast in a way that is gonna help keep the game I love alive.
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    alamo got a reaction from WestAustralian in What is it you want to see?   
    i would like to see the company make continuous small steps in re-building goodwill among its customers.  the blog was an obvious good start and small comms consistently is better than 1 blog every 6 months or so. this theme is all throughout this thread and repeating the same comms theme is tiresome as well as all the excuses.
    so lets make a new day arming the company with what we desire, hope someone there reads these posts and is willing to take initiative and respond,  and stop restating the problem over and over. hoping for a fresh start and give one more opportunity to grow the community and grow the company.
    now if none of the stated concerns are addressed or we go back to deafening silence then we will know for sure that we tried as a community to do all we could do for the games we love and want to share with our pals.

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    alamo got a reaction from cm284 in How is PF doing in July SG?   
    that makes 2 of us as i surely enjoy your hobby thread wes..........a very bright spot and always a joy to see your work.
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    alamo got a reaction from WestAustralian in WestAustralian's FSA Fleets   
    wes, just love your firestorm models, great color contrast and great job.
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    alamo got a reaction from WestAustralian in How is PF doing in July SG?   
    that makes 2 of us as i surely enjoy your hobby thread wes..........a very bright spot and always a joy to see your work.
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    alamo reacted to WestAustralian in WestAustralian's FSA Fleets   
    Thank you For the great comments guys. It really helps encourage me to keep going. 
     
    Work has has begun on the Terran's 

    I see clean Resin and want to Paint it Black....


     
    Works Raptor Photos, FSA & PF





    And all together 

     
    I will be working on a Terran colour test between PF infantry. I also want to finish my Asteroids off. 
    Thanks for looking
    WA
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    alamo reacted to WestAustralian in WestAustralian's FSA Fleets   
    Hi all,
    It has been a long time since I last posted anything for FSA. My old Relthoza thread is slipping away. I thought I would revisit my Fleets under the Hobby section where they belong. I have lots of Painted mini's to show and some new work I would like to share. 
    I will kick this off with some shots of the random ships I have out
     
    This is part of my corsairs fleet, I suppose these ships will be getting a bit more common about the game scene, now they have been revived.

     
     
    My Works Raptor are the most colourful miniatures I have done for FSA

     
     
    I have been thinking of painting these, but I don't know what colours to use


     
    Thanks for looking
    Likes and comments appreciated 
    WA
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    alamo reacted to WestAustralian in How is PF doing in July SG?   
    I seriously doubt that PF will roll in with the FSA Kickstarter. It might, but I doubt it, seriously......
    I Paint way more than I play these days, so mostly I want to get the new core models. 
    I do find the attitude here and the continuous lack of constructive communication from SG a real drag on my personal drive. Without feedback on my painting blog/thread I would have dropped off ages ago
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    alamo got a reaction from Benchpresser in DESIRE to know more INTENSIFIES!   
    i always found beth to be a very kind, helpful person who would answer anything she could.........and would seek answers to questions/problems and actually post back to you.  indeed she was a trooper that is greatly missed.
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    alamo reacted to Small Mek in DESIRE to know more INTENSIFIES!   
    I really agree with Hive above.


     
    Warning: long rambling ahead, proceed with caution!


     
    I'm not quite sure that we're dealing with a trivial situation here. Providing criticism (however constructive and/or positively worded it may be) for the communications issues is the easier path. Finding solutions on the other hand is not (also quite futile, as none of us are in a position to make decisions for Spartan). Still as a thought experiment, we could have a crack at it.

    Managing a community is not simple. As Spartan has (too) many game systems to support, but they are (probably) not generating that much of a revenue for it to be called a big company (this might be the most probable case, it explains the recent kickstarters, and the high portion of volunteer work it relies upon to stay afloat). It is just a bit too large for a single unpaid person, to manage all the rules and the community interactions in his free time. There are two paths Spartan has already tried:


     
    1.) Dedicated community manager.


     
    @Spartan Beth fulfilled this role, and she did an excellent job at being helpful, but she didn't play any of the games, didn't take part in the development, and I can risk it that she wasn't really "in the know" of the long term plans (if there are any ), so to fulfil her duties, she had to have a constant conversation with those responsible for the respective duties, getting delayed and/or partial information. Fortunately for her she has found a good opportunity, unfortunately for us she took it and sadly she wasn't replaced.

    This system wasn't as successful, as it could have been, because Beth didn't have an authority on rules matters, didn't have info on release schedules, all that information had to be extracted from various other personnel.


     
    2.) Take multiple volunteers for multiple the systems, and give them the duty to manage both the rules and the community for those (the current system).


     
    Simple as it may sound, just not everyone is cut out to fulfill these completely different duties at the same time. This is why @Spartan Mike deserves so much respect. Not only did he have a say creating the new the dystopian rules/stats, he still managed to engage that side of the community, maintaining two sided discussions, reassuring, explaining, teasing. On top of that, he was the only Spartan staff member daring to make an appearance in the hornet's nest that is the PF forums nowadays. He sets a good example, that this can be done right, if the (unpaid volunteers) are dedicated enough, but, is that the norm?

    If I was enthusiastic enough to manage the renewal/development of two game systems in my free time, managing 19(?) beta team's worth data input for two separate systems, providing feedback to their feedback etc. I know I wouldn't be able to be on the forums, trying to calmly reassure people while not giving away anything, as my hands are probably tied because of all the NDAs I have signed, and every time I want to share something, I have to get permission from @Spartan Neil, who is really passionate about everything his company does... but also he likes to personally handle everything, and he likes to have the final word in every single matter... This is what drove Spartan Alex away (than got him banned, exiled, and removed from every record). @Spartan Derek probably chose to fulfill only one half of this duty, and tries to do that better in the expense of engaging the community. We have seen how damaging it can be - at least on the short term. On the long term, we'll see if the new rules will make up for this.

    Anyway. This system is also flawed, as it needs a specific type of person for it to work, who is willing to burn the candle on both ends... but as we know those candles have a tendency to last only half as long...


     
    So what is 3.) ?

    I think we all believe to have pieces to this puzzle, but I know I don't have a solution I believe can solve everything, so I'm asking you guys if you have any input (as this thread should be about Spartan being curious what do we really think right?).


     
    -Should @Spartan Neil loosen his grip on his company? It would help, but ultimately it's his company, his investment (both capital and emotional), I doubt this will happen, even though probably overt centralization hurts Spartan as it's too spread out for this system to work. Still, I can completely understand his personal attachment for every piece of resin his company produces.


     
    -Consistency in communication? When Spartan decides to be transparent, and reveals it's plans it tends to be very specific about those things (roadmaps with dates, plans that are being worked on), but there's rarely a follow-up with updates on how those plans are working out. Of course I'd like more communication with more updates, details and everything, but... would less information work? Omitting anything that is obviously wishful thinking? Would it make Spartan more like the Dreaded overseers of the Grimdark?


     
    -We know Spartan is trying to gather hard data of the preferences of the playerbase with the surveys. would it be better if we knew if we are really the jaded minority? Would we believe if the surveys said we were (and are the surveys providing unskewed data)? Because if we are, we are shooting ourselves in the foot rambling about how bad Spartan is handling it's games, even though (I'm quite sure) we believe we are helping pointing out the problems (louder and louder as time passes by).


     
    -I'm absolutely certain, if we have anything to sink our teeth into, we would do that, but we're not getting anything, because... well. I know, that when I have heard the changes about mines and cloaking, I was really bummed out (still am), hearing about SRS changes wasn't substantial enough for me to form an opinion about, but I was feeling really positive hearing about it, but without context and with everything being the subject of change, they mean nothing, and I may be worrying or being joyful for in vain, and I would provide a meaningless feedback. Maybe even loudly. Which is the better solution?


     
    -... Anything I have left out?


     
    On one hand I'd be happy if these questions would be answered by those with inside knowledge of the workings, but on the other hand I have a feeling we (the remnants of the community) would tear those answers apart like the information-hungry ghosts we are. Still... wouldn't it be better for both parties to weather the initial ****storm and ultimately establish a healthy relationship with the current followers?


     
    TL;DR: Spartan is in a damned if you do, damned if you  don't situation. So why don't, if you could do? But how exactly would you do, if you were in their shoes?

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