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      We are pleased to announce we will have a limited edition collectors pin available exclusively during Adepticon 2018. 

      We hope to bring out a series of these collectors badges with a new one available at each major show we attend through the year. You will be able to purchase the badge either from our stand at Adepticon or through the Wild West Exodus website for the duration of the show. 

      Measuring almost an inch in diameter, this year's Adepticon exclusive pin will feature Unger, an Enlightened Creation and is strictly limited to 200 copies. Watch out for other iconic characters from the Dystopian Age coming soon!

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    • In March we'll be joining over 80 exhibitors at AdeptiCon 2018 . With us, we'll be bringing the weird west battles of the Wild West Exodus world, our dynamic demo team (we don't go anywhere without them!), and some sneaky event exclusives - including some very welcome Dystopian Wars previews!
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    • In case you missed our post yesterday evening on Facebook, I thought I should add these upcoming beauties here...

      We have images of both the Infernal Investigations posse and the Ranger Showboat posse below - which one would like to get on your tabletop?
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    • We are very excited to announce that 24th February 2018 sees the first release of terrain from Warcradle Studios! There are five new buildings available for pre-order including the Red Oak Residence, the Red Oak Cartwright's, the Red Oak Jail, the Red Oak Metal Smith, and the Red Oak Post Office; all of which are supplied primed for easy painting...
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    • Today was truly a clash to behold, Lukes creepy creations of the Enlightened facing off against William and his band of Outlaw Bikers...
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    • Very true, a lot of personal preferences regarding things is being presented on both sides, but you seemed to miss my point regarding the app.  Going with an app doesn't mean you don't have to do away with Tokens or HP dice on the table.  Having an app is actually considered the "cool" thing these days.  Even though there are apps for WarmaHordes and Warhammer, people still use their dice and tokens for many of those things, even if the app handles it.  Some people like to have that tactile connection to what is happening on the table, and it is a lot quicker to see it on the table.  Heck, that is half the reason Dropfleet has their bases set up to provide a lot of that information.   In the end, that doesn't mean an app couldn't still be very very useful or cool. If properly set up, an app will provide a fleet creation tool as well as a edoc version of the rules and Fleet Manuals.  The Fleet Manuals can have links in the MARs to the rules edoc for quick access.  War Room does this, and aside from having to open a very large and cumbersome PDF, is actually quite convenient.
    • I think you misunderstood me on a few points but I’ll shrug or say “different strokes” to all but one: I’m not suggesting people track damage and effects on an app nor a paper printout.  I think ideally both need to be tracked visibly on the table, using dice or tokens ...and I think that computers being good at counting HP isn’t the point - people can forget to click a button or click it twice just as easily as they can make a mistake on paper or card.     
    • Battlescribe sheets can be as busy as (if not more then) your notepad.  This is where the confusion can come in.  All it takes is your opponent accidentally looking in the wrong spot (or you accidentally pointing to the wrong spot) for confusion to occur.  All that information is great for look up, but it increases the business of the sheet, and can be misinterpreted. Moreover, the problem with Battlescribe and your notepad is that they aren't official.  We are dependent on you or a 3rd party to be accurate.  Battlescribe is dependent on the author to keep it updated, so we have to hope they stay interested in the game and maintaining it. That isn't to say cards aren't superior in every case.  One can easily pick up the wrong card to show to your opponent, after all, and keeping up with erratas and edits are a pain in the arse.  Privateer Press also has had misprints of their cards from time to time. My point was just to be aware of the issues along with it.  Cards are useful for many reasons, including a place to put tokens to avoid cluttering up the game space (I have seen people do this for X-Wing and WarmaHordes). 1) I disagree.  On a printout, you can have multiple ships on the sheet with multiple MARs.  It is a very busy document.  True, there is no room to detail each MAR on a card, but they can be listed, and you are just as likely to need to be looking things up from the Fleet Manual as the card. 2) It didn't seem too much for Privateer Press games before last year.  Admittedly, they are going more and more to the War Room app these days, but the cards are still an option for the grognards or those whose battery life is limited. 3) True, but why do you need to have every MAR definition on a card?  In most cases, they are universal, and easily referenced.  Also, it is no more difficult to keep track of upgrades on a single ship card then it is on a squadron card. 4) Apps are very cool at tracking damage as they don't forget, and are very good at math.  Showing someone the damage on a ship in an app is just as easy as showing them on a card or on a Battlescribe sheet.  In addition, going app doesn't mean you have to get rid of tokens.  Heck, I've used both playing WarmaHordes with War Room 2. 5) Wait, you can write the TFA on a paper, but you can't write a MAR on card?  This is a bit of a double standard.  More to the point, no one has stated that cards are necessary, just very useful. 6) Then what are they going to review the rules on?  The same thing that they were going to run an app with?  The same paper that they can print a card on?  What about Tokens, either on the base, a card, or a printout?  There are always barriers to starting any game.  And for the most part, the people who have Firestorm stuff now can proxy most of the new stuff with what they already have.
    • Agree with @Wolfgang Jannesen  and others on a few points.  Summary: - a tool that builds fleets math is useful. We have 2 volunteer efforts already and one or both can be improved. A ledgible paper printout is no less easy to read than cards.  - 12-30 ship cards consumes too much needed space in table  - it’s difficlt to print MAR definitions  and account for varied upgrades on single ship cards   - apps are not cool for tracking ship status/damage.  Both players must see status/damage on the table to enable them make game decisions   - tactical fleet actions (now TAC cards) are good but cards aren’t necessary either:  players could simply choose, write down on secret paper, then reveal   - when 3.0 comes out, want it easy for people to dust off models, download rules, play, say “this is better!” and then buy newer/more models, play again. I feel strongly that community does not need a barrier that they have to buy new tools/cards/bases, etc to even try 3.0  
    • While I like how FSA movement gives that slow turn of the ship feel, it is problematic because it is impossible to determine exactly where your ship will end up without actually doing the move. Whether we use template or rotations. How often you can 'turn'  and how far just changes the mechanics, but doesn't solve the basic problem. In most games, you can measure between your starting and ending point and just move the model there. That's what I like about @Stoobert's proposal. No multiple 'movements' from shifting the template to get you to the end point. No uncertainty about  just how far you can turn. Just decide on an eligible end point and put the model there with a simple rotation to an legal angle. So much faster than any alternative I've heard so far.
    • Not precise enough for competitive play.  The Litco FSA Movement template was very handy.  While it was too fat & long to be useful in the inevitable furball, it was fantastic for determining weather or not a Target was within a firing arc, which is really important when both movement and weapon fire are significantly limited. Strangely, it just now occurred to me this combination of restricted movement (especially turning), firing arcs, and range bands is why the game works.  These limitations naturally create limited playing options, which leads to the player often needing to chose between several viable choices. The alternating activations also lead to these choices, which is why it is such a good system for Turn-based play... and why larger games are more interesting.  You are more likely to have a hard time choosing which Squadron to activate when you have more options. This naturally leads me to question: what is the point of diminishing returns for the number of Squadrons each player fields?  It should be pretty clear that one extreme, two Squadrons, is too few to realiably create tough choices... while 100 is overwhelming, so the tendency is to just go with the first good-looking option. Thankfully, someone already figured it out: 7-10.  The first phone numbers were seven digits long, because a significant enough number of people had trouble remembering 8 digits.  However, some players are smarter than the average bear, so they should have the option to bring a few more Squadrons. It’s probably a happy coincidence that at 1200 points, most fleets hit this range.
    • We're going to have to agree to disagree here. I didn't find the cards that came with my blisters as useful as a printed battlescribe sheet, and having picked this game up during a stall in its life it wasn't easy for me I get my hands on everything all the old time players have. TAC cards and the like make me nervous because if you can't find them around you, it's off to the printer. If it doesn't sound like a big deal printing those off, that's why I don't see the need for cards. Rather than bother with another extraneous thing to ship with each pack, I'm CERTAIN you're all capable of keeping track of a battlescribe-esque sheet (I know you have concerns with battlescribe, there is a dedicated Firestorm program made by a community member). I don't see how that would be any more or less complicated than a card, BUT it keeps warcradle from printing something we could be printing out at home with more detailed information. I'll be using these 3rd party list maker programs purely because I like having all my MAR and cohesion rules in front of me, and I like changing the upgrades and hard points depend on on the fight, which was another thing the pre-printed cards suffer for.      
    • Die hatten da ne ganze Menge Modelle zur Schau ausgestellt, die erst noch kommen. Zum Beispiel die Cor Carolli der Order.
    • I still intend to get the new models as they come out. For the majority of my collection, I'll be reorganising the squadrons to make the warcradle versions into "squad leaders" (or the other way around, depending on what I currently own). I just think it would be a good idea (even if it's a few months after the warcradle models are released) to have components for those people who aren't so good at sculpting/conversion work available, so they can get their current collection to look like they're the correct scale. I'm prepared for some of my collection (such as my 6 DW-scale trains) to be redundant, and I can deal with it. I'm an Ork player for 40k (since 1996) and repurposing things has become second nature to me. Something I would suggest for the "new" model is having additional options in its kit, that could easily be attached to the older model (eg make it so the "new" mobile airfields have empty flight decks, and have the jump troops, gyrocopters, etc  as separate elements). This means that the new model will still get bought, and veteran players can get something to unify their collections.
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